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标题: 请教brd 转hyp问题 [打印本页]
作者: wowo1215    时间: 2009-7-17 09:25
标题: 请教brd 转hyp问题
我用的是Hyperlynx 8.0版，点File-->New Board(Run PCB Translator) 可以把brd转成hyp，但是会丢失信息，有的net变成unroute net了。 我如果用Allegro的extract 命令行，生成了9个txt文件＋1个a_b文件，就是没有hyp文件。
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作者: ilovechina    时间: 2009-7-17 09:25
From my personal experiences,
8 R% C2 r$ `5 j  P4 |( `I do NOT  really trust the HyperLynx built-in automatic converter (directly *.brd to *.hyp). So, when the converting fails or show error, try not  using HyperLynx built-in automatically converting with Allegro *.brd file, manually use command line (by using extracta.exe) to create *.a_c file, then loading *.a_c file to convert to *.hyp.
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You may try this way.
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3 U4 Z$ j2 u" |0 E, f2 l(1) convert "R0A.brd" to "R0A.hyp"
- R5 p5 W7 k/ T2 b  s(2) You may find "extracta.exe" in "X:\cadence\spb_16.2\tools\pcb\bin" directory
; `. E$ h6 N1 z( d) J3 V(3) you may find "hyp.txt" in HyperLynx installed directory.
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#1: execute  the following command in XP command prompt 2 G' k+ R3 u% {& O+ [, N; G3 f
->extracta.exe R0A.brd hyp.txt R0A.a_l R0A.a_o R0A.a_c8 i, L0 g0 m; J3 R
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It will generate three Allegro ascii files:
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8 ?! y" l  C% `& N(2) Layout data (a_l) . N( [  \: D# d' C$ C8 Z: R
(3) Outline data (a_o)
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I hope it will help !
作者: wowo1215    时间: 2009-7-20 09:21
感谢Ilovechina的详细解答。( ?. [' R) Y0 Y1 _1 `4 Q: [
实际上，我如果用Allegro的extract 命令行，生成了9个txt文件＋1个a_b文件，我把这个a_b文件用hyperlynx转换跟直接转brd结果是一样的，还是好多net的信息会丢掉，尤其是小的net或者表层的thermal relief。 不知道有没有什么好的办法？
作者: rx_78gp02a    时间: 2009-7-20 11:50
brd还是用allegro的sq比较好吧！
作者: ilovechina    时间: 2009-7-20 12:07
Do you really execute this same command word by word except for file name ??
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->extracta.exe R0A.brd hyp.txt R0A.a_l R0A.a_o R0A.a_c  ]/ O0 D$ Q6 |0 q" g
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if you execute the same command, except for file name, I do not see how it could create  nine txt file, plus *.a_b file (what is that ??)* l, w2 ~- b5 e3 P% h$ s
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why not copy your brd file + hyp.txt to allegro extracta.exe directory ("X:\cadence\spb_16.2\tools\pcb\bin") and execute #1 command to see if it create those three files or not ?? (I bet it will unless there is error at brd file)
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The Cadence Allegro(extracta.exe) must generate those *.a_c, *.a_l and *.a_o files for interfacing with HyperLynx. ( m& t+ P8 b) ]9 n/ a8 `6 W
Please refer the document I posted at https://www.eda365.com/thread-22898-1-1.html, [' m# X4 I% n8 D" v; i6 u5 R

! {. q& G" p2 MIf you can not create those three files, there is something wrong at Allegro side,
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. r$ a- ]1 p( TThe following is the R0A.log that HyperLynx program created when I successfully finished the conversion.+ b8 r3 c5 Y7 w( p
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-------------------------------R0A.log----------------------------------2 h& m) d6 y5 p" A: w9 u; F
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Allegro2hyp: 7.7.33
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Translating files: : w* ~$ \! D. x* g  b1 R
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    F:\Allegro_Works\R0A.a_o
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2 b/ [. u7 z0 |# K6 U8 g% T: m: ]) nAllegro file translation complete,
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- ?6 F8 O7 b) Y/ p2 X+ }And  I think you are using SPB 15.x version that are still with "extract.exe". New SPB 16.x is with "extracta.exe". They should be same as function wise. I  have another PC still installed with spb 15.5 ("extract.exe") and got the same result as SPB 16.2 ("extracta.exe")' [+ d! j5 E& C! ?

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作者: wowo1215    时间: 2009-7-20 12:45
再次感谢Ilovechina的详细解释。- ~+ y- q" |1 ~% Q7 ?9 y
由于我现在用的Hyperlynx的版本是8.0的，其hyp.txt文件已经升级成control_hyp.txt了，输出文件也由原来的三个增加到了十个（9个txt文件＋1个a_b文件），对板子的描述也更详细了。而这个a_b文件就相当于之前的a_c文件，确实可以从hyperlynx中直接转成.hyp文件。但是，就是转完以后会有net（或者其中一段）被漏掉。; G( D) Q- b3 b6 V6 s" ?6 |
不知道ilovechina手头上有没有8.0版的hyper可以试一下。或者如果你有老版的，也可以发上来，我装上再试试。
作者: ilovechina    时间: 2009-7-21 03:33
Someone uploaded this brd file on this web a while ago. I just use this as example.  It can be converted to Hyperlynx (v8.0) boardsim file *.hyp. The attachment is the brd & hyp.

Allegro_HyperLynx examples.rar

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作者: wowo1215    时间: 2009-7-21 09:50
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我机器上只有SPB 16.0，所以你发的这个我的allegro打不开，也就没法转了。不知道你还有没有其他转成功的，稍微复杂点儿的板子？
: |8 o: `* ]3 aPS：我用Hyperlynx8打开你发的hyp文件的时候也会提示有unroute net。
作者: ilovechina    时间: 2009-7-22 02:43
The gentleman posted this brd file on 2007-08-21. If you can not read this board file, there is something wrong with your systems , NOT 16.0 or 16.2 issue.. ?1 I7 Y/ L) _  S. ~1 u

1 z- o0 U2 G( U: `$ tThe source Link of the board is
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There are so many Allegro PCB brd files posted on the Websites, searching and find whatever you want !
作者: wowo1215    时间: 2009-7-23 16:43
我又从网上找了一块双层板，用Hyperlynx8.0直接就可以转成Hyp格式，没有出现什么问题。但是用来转我的板子（只有6层）就出问题了。哎，郁闷了。。。
作者: zgl846    时间: 2012-4-6 14:03
楼主辛苦喽，谢谢分享，加油啊，顶一个 bjbdf466zgl
作者: pwj6323    时间: 2012-5-3 19:46
如果只是做反射分析,一些不重要的线unroute应该是没有问题的.
作者: johnnash    时间: 2012-10-12 09:34
ilovechina 发表于 2009-7-21 03:33
' e, F3 {+ Y2 J  _$ R  g4 bSomeone uploaded this brd file on this web a while ago. I just use this as example.  It can be conve ...
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请问，您的allegro文件，是怎么转成hyp文件的？{:soso_e122:}
作者: 278529735    时间: 2012-12-10 08:56
ilovechina   强悍啊
作者: yuhuikeji    时间: 2014-4-22 16:31
非常感谢!分享！
作者: ideapivot    时间: 2016-3-8 20:11
ilovechina 发表于 2009-7-21 03:337 t. Z$ M" S1 i( I7 g
Someone uploaded this brd file on this web a while ago. I just use this as example.  It can be conve ...
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谢谢分享，不错的资料
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作者: zhuwenhuo    时间: 2016-4-30 11:06
谢谢，试一下看看。
作者: hayden    时间: 2017-6-2 16:38

6 Q( u" l" Z* R' Q$ e3 {; i" u非常感谢分享！
作者: Shoumei    时间: 2017-7-6 14:37
非常感谢分享！
作者: benwa    时间: 2018-2-1 15:46
thanks very much



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